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Feb. 12th, 2004 | 04:02 pm

I didn't realize last night that the fan calling to talk to Dom on the Loveline radio show was in a fandom chat on LJ. It may have pushed limits we shouldn't push, just getting our possibly squicky hobby a bit too close to a real person. If you search for sexula on the web, the LJ comes up #1. And that could be distressing to himself or more generic fans.

As sparcck put it in her eloquent post: "we have to constantly make sure that we separate the Lord of the Rings fandom from the Lotrips fandom because there is a world of difference."

I am also sad that the caller squandered an opportunity to make him feel good. Instead of emphasizing what a good actor, interesting person and pinup they think he is, the whole thing was all about her little group. Say hi to us, not hey you lovely man, we think you rock.

It's an interesting thing to consider, ahead of the the TORn party...

(BTW: my near-real-time notes from the show are here: part one, part two, part three, part four.)
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Giuliana

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from: antigone921
date: Feb. 12th, 2004 07:07 pm (UTC)
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Right off the bat, that call made me cringe so I turned the volume down for the majority of it. Now I know what it was all about...gah.

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Feb. 13th, 2004 08:43 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, it was pushy. Ah well.

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from: skyeathena
date: Feb. 12th, 2004 08:50 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, you're right. I mean, there's a line. And it's not because slash is wrong or anything, it's just being appreciative of the actual people involved.

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Feb. 13th, 2004 08:43 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, basically trying to keep reality and fiction separate.

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from: jubilancy
date: Feb. 12th, 2004 09:43 pm (UTC)
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didn't you know? pinups don't have feelings, you stick pins in them!

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Feb. 13th, 2004 08:44 pm (UTC)
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But if I didn't like him as a person, I wouldn't be a fan. I guess that doesn't always follow.

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from: ex_grievous_115
date: Feb. 13th, 2004 12:11 am (UTC)
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From what I've read about it, it was obviously done in the heat of the moment, but that doesn't stop it being embarrassing and a little bit crass. And it brings the slash side of the fandom too close to the public eye - I think people forget that what we do could bring an awful lot of trouble down on our heads.

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Feb. 13th, 2004 08:46 pm (UTC)
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I'm not so worried about trouble for us as offense and hurt to the actors. Sigh.

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from: mauvemalady
date: Feb. 13th, 2004 08:37 pm (UTC)
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I am also sad that the caller squandered an opportunity to make him feel good. Instead of emphasizing what a good actor, interesting person and pinup they think he is, the whole thing was all about her little group.

Aye. I think moments of connection like that are so rare...and I think this about things like autograph-giving too, though perhaps I don't have a right as I've never been present at a signing or anything of the sort...that there is, or there ought to be, a bit of an obligation (even if it's only subliminal) to let them know how great we think they are, taking the emphasis off ourselves. I don't mean gushing, but even quiet gratitude would be nice. Just something they could treasure--or at least take in--without fear of undertones.

I'm all for the undertones, of course--fictastic, yah--but I know they might not be (in fact probably aren't) and am highly supportive the the don't ask/don't tell approach with fandoms.

It smacks of the uproar that surrounded that twat's proffering of the Merry/Pippin Theban Band manip to Dom and Billy that time. Ouch.

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Feb. 13th, 2004 08:49 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, an offer of appreciation of their work and choices. I did the autograph thing once only, at C4 after I'd seen the guys talk the nights before. And I did try to explain that I thought they were great both on screen and in person. They were so clearly connecting to the fannish energy, it seems they got a lot out of it that time at least.

I like the idea of "don't ask / don't tell" on RPS.

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