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Jan. 27th, 2009 | 12:39 pm
mood: sad

There's a hellova wank about racism in science fiction, with people I previously admired making utter fools of themselves. rydra_wong has a whole pile of links and good discussion in her journal starting on January 14, and

This is very helpful: How Not To Be Insane When Accused of Racism (A Guide For White People). Because it's not all about us.
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Hekaterine

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from: hekateriness
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 08:43 pm (UTC)
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I thought about making a post somewhat related to this.

This whole issue got completely out of hand! WTF?

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 09:00 pm (UTC)
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It is crazymaking. And I just couldn't not say anything.

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stormatdusk

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from: stormatdusk
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 09:10 pm (UTC)
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ow. just ow ow ow, all over the place. *listens anyway*

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 11:34 pm (UTC)
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Yeah. People start out with the best intentions...

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sister mary jillian holtzmann

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from: marginalia
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 09:23 pm (UTC)
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i had totally missed this. that is probably for the best.

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 11:38 pm (UTC)
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You're lucky, some of the stuff has been so hard to read, hard to believe, sadder than hell. I've watched a lot of wank, but this one is ugly.

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obsessive-compulsive squirrel

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from: acari
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 09:56 pm (UTC)
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I've been watching that ever since it spiralled out of control in E. Bear's LJ. Funny how it always ends with white people wallowing in their butthurt while POC have to bend over backwards and explain. /sarcasm

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 11:40 pm (UTC)
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It sure looks like white butthurt keeps the thing going. Why can't they just shut up and listen? I'm far from perfect but at least I don't pour salt in a wound.

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sheldrake

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from: sheldrake
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 10:11 pm (UTC)
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I've been quietly obsessing over this for days. It's sad. :(

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 11:41 pm (UTC)
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That's a good word. We can be sad together.

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Issi

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from: ismenin
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 10:37 pm (UTC)
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I went over and took a quick look, and left, bemused. It's very sad when people you think of as decent folks get wound up in this sort of thing.

When I was about 15, I wrote a little something (one could hardly dignify it with the title of 'poem') that I have largely forgotten. But the end sticks in my mind.

'...skin is only wrapping paper for the soul, after all - and wrapping paper comes in lots of different colours, doesn't it?'

That's my pov, and no-one will shift me from it.

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Jan. 27th, 2009 11:43 pm (UTC)
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It's important to me to listen to the people of color talking about this. Just listening has its value.

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AngiePen

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from: angiepen
date: Jan. 28th, 2009 12:21 am (UTC)
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I've been following this on and off and have lost respect for a lot of people. [nod/sigh] I get depressed all over again whenever something like this happens.

Angie

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Jan. 28th, 2009 01:09 am (UTC)
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Yep. But I have this feeling that a few minds are opened every time. *hopes*

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AngiePen

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from: angiepen
date: Jan. 28th, 2009 01:37 am (UTC)
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I hope so too. That's the only thing that makes these exercises even vaguely worthwhile.

Angie

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not my real name

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from: slightlytricky
date: Jan. 28th, 2009 01:48 am (UTC)
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This is a good place to drop this link I think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Jan. 28th, 2009 03:35 am (UTC)
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A little optimistic, apparently. No matter what, people seem to hear someone say that they *are* racist and start arguing that they're not.

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from: pir8fancier
date: Jan. 28th, 2009 04:21 am (UTC)
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I read that guide a few months ago and it really is something to tape to your frigging wall. Just sigh. You know?

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