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May. 25th, 2008 | 02:54 am
mood: relieved

A full transcript of the online chat that Peter and Guillermo del Toro held to answer fan questions about the Hobbit movies. Links & interesting thoughts from ithiliana and sandelwood.

A quick summary:
  • they expect to shoot a lot on location and in New Zealand
  • hope to rebuild Hobbiton on the same location
  • Ian will "absolutely" return as Gandalf the Grey
  • they'll shoot both films in 2010
  • Release date for the first will be 2011 and the second 2012 (see ETA below)
  • Peter calls himself a Hobbit and Guillermo a Dwarf
  • they expect to use the same technical team
  • no news on Legolas's role
  • the story tone will be lighter at least for the Hobbit
  • the name "H2 Electric Boogaloo" has been rejected for the second movie ;-)
  • Ian Holm will be involved somehow
  • Peter sees The Hobbit as an Edwardian adventure tale set before the looming clouds of WWI
  • Guillermo says 'There can never be "too much Andy" [Serkis]'
  • Peter says they will "figure out what happens during that 60 years [between the Hobbit and LOTR]
  • and choose one short section of time to drop in and dramatise for the screen."
  • Guillermo intends to use all 13 dwarves
  • Peter says he doesn't want to go back and "compete against my own movies" so is not directing.
  • there will be a BluRay version of the LOTR trilogy, but not this year.</ili>


And the #1 question: Will the actors reprise their roles?

Guillermo: "Unequivocally, every single actor that originated a role in the Trilogy will be asked to participate and reprise it. If Health, availability or willigness become obstacles – and only in that case recasting would be considered."

Peter: "Like Guillermo says, apart from extreme circumstances, we would never recast a character who appeared in the LOTR trilogy. You can read The Hobbit and pretty much see which characters play a part. The unknown facter is Film Two, which we are still developing. If we wished to write one of the LOTR characters into the narrative of Film Two, we would only do that with that actors blessing, and willingess to take part. Otherwise we'd take the writing in another direction. "

Me: I read this as saying that the Elves could appear, but really very few of the Men and Hobbits would make it, even into the second film. They're just too young. The Hobbit events occur in 2940 of the Third Age, and LOTR in 3018. Aragorn, who was born in 2931, could show up. But Frodo wasn't born until 2968 and Boromir in 2978. Plus, the actors are all ten years older. I'm hoping that the ones whose characters aren't around will at least get to do minor roles. Ah well.

And Christopher Tolkien trying to terminate film rights to The Hobbit because New Line has been playing fast and loose with the accounting. Silly man. Royd Tolkien, OTOH, is a hottie.

matildabj points out that release dates are 2011 for the first one and 2012 for the second, and in fact there's a bit in the Q&A where some fan asks if they meant to use the 10-year-anniversary of LOTR, and Peter says, no but it's a clever idea.

ETA: caras_galadhon points out that the last bit is from Pete, not Guillermo, fixed.
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the Legs, the Nose and Mrs Robinson

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from: matildabj
date: May. 25th, 2008 09:25 am (UTC)
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WONDERFUL. Thanks for the summing-up!

You've misquoted the release dates (so I needn't get quite so excited). The transcript says:

2009 will be dedicated to pre-production on both movies and 2010 will be the year we shoot both films back to back. Post production follows one film at a time with The Hobbit being released Dec(ember) 2011, and F2 (film two) release(d) Dec(ember) 2012.


So we've got three and a half years to wait! *fidgets*

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: May. 25th, 2008 02:12 pm (UTC)
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Thanks, I have ETAed!

I've never much had a yen to go to NZ, but now... now I'm thinking hard about it!

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the Legs, the Nose and Mrs Robinson

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from: matildabj
date: May. 25th, 2008 06:09 pm (UTC)
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Oh, you should go! You won't regret it. And there are direct flights from SF to Auckland...

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: May. 26th, 2008 05:39 pm (UTC)
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I have some time to choose exactly when ... during filming... first premiere... second premiere...

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Galadriel

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from: caras_galadhon
date: May. 25th, 2008 05:05 pm (UTC)
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Actually, IIRC, it was PJ who said the 10th anniversary was a clever idea that he was now going to take credit for. Ah, here we are...
    Was it intentional to release the first Hobbit film on the 10 year anniversary of FOTR?

    Peter Jackson Dear Razor - No this is the first time I have actually thought about it ... that is nice I will claim credit for the idea from this day forward
Me, I'm still hopeful we'll see the original actors back, since the interim film will no doubt cover some of the material in the Appendices, and there's plenty of action going on in Gondor while Boromir and Faramir are adults. The Shire? Maybe not as much, which would still be a bit of a shame. And hey, actors getting older has never stopped the film industry from pretending they're younger before. ^_~

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: May. 25th, 2008 09:31 pm (UTC)
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I sit corrected! And will correct in my post.

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Galadriel

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from: caras_galadhon
date: May. 25th, 2008 10:31 pm (UTC)
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Cool. ^_^ It look like something got cut off in your post, though?

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itstonedme

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from: itstonedme
date: May. 30th, 2008 01:59 am (UTC)
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Thank you for posting this! I can see all kinds of recasting for actors whose characters from the Trilogy might postdate these two films, but whose kin certainly wouldn't have. It gets them around the aging issue. Soooo exciting!

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: May. 31st, 2008 05:17 am (UTC)
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I'm excited! I was deeply skeptical about the first film, but once I got over that, I learned to trust the New Zealand Cabal :-)

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peachy_penumbra

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from: peachy_penumbra
date: May. 30th, 2008 09:59 pm (UTC)
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There can never be too much Andy... TOO RIGHT. Smart man, Guillermo. Smart man.

Anyway.

I definitely think that Aragorn should play a role in film two. I've always found the sort of middle stuff with Aragorn that isn't explained the most fascinating, and with the twins and... GLORFINDEL COULD YOU PLEASE JUST BRING IN A FUCKING GLORFINDEL? *ahem* Also FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET HALDIR IN THERE SO WE CAN HAVE MORE CRAIG PARKER BEING AWESOME AT CONVENTIONS AND SHOWING UP ON YOUTUBE?

Okay. I am done now. :-D

Oh and IAN, but I knew that already.

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: May. 30th, 2008 10:11 pm (UTC)
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More Andy! More Ian!

Also more Aragorn, with Elves, including Craig "platform shoes" Parker, omg YES!

I'm just not sure they can de-age Viggo's face enough to make it work, he's going the craggy Clint Eastwood direction these days. At least I'm plump enough to fill out my wrinkles (we're pretty much the same age).

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peachy_penumbra

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from: peachy_penumbra
date: May. 30th, 2008 10:22 pm (UTC)
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Well it would depend a lot on what year in that interval they choose... also how you think of the aging process working for Numenorians. Like, do they age at the same rate as humans, just that the total lifespan is longer? Or do they age at a "normal" rate until they're adults and then it starts slowing down? If that was the case, it might be easier. I see what you mean, but I still think it'd be possible. I mean you have to figure Aragorn was pretty worn and dirty from the time he left Rivendell and started really doing his thing.

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: May. 31st, 2008 05:14 am (UTC)
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Huh, I assumed your first scenario, and anyway, worn-and-dirty Aragorn is always a good thing. Maybe some Thorongil/young!Denethor hoyay, that would work pretty damn well for me :-)

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