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Anti-fanfic Bingo Card!

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Dec. 15th, 2007 | 11:14 am
mood: amused

I think having a fandom/fanwork advocacy organization is a good idea. Especially the universal fanworks archive, and legal defense if someone's actually sued. While I agree that the name "Organization for Transformative Works" is a bit complicated for a fanworks advocacy organization, that transformativeworks.org is a non-intuitive URL, that the acafan language and the journal focus is annoying,and the archive not really started yet... I still support it, and the fact that my dear mirabile_dictu is involved makes me want to give it lots of slack.

So what is OTW getting? The usual anti-fanfic arguments. So much that ithiliana has created an Anti Fanfic Bingo Card! Including such classics as: It's totally different if the author is dead! and Fanwriters are just like stalkers! Now we can compete to post BINGO on each anti-fanfic post :-)

ETA: fixed bad link to the bingo card, it's unofficial
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nerdy secret bondage pixie

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from: impasto
date: Dec. 15th, 2007 08:58 pm (UTC)
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Hmm, that site looks interesting. I'm a little perturbed by its emphasis on fandom as a primarily-female space, but otherwise it seems like it could be a great support network.

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Dec. 15th, 2007 11:41 pm (UTC)
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There was this HUGE back-and-forth thing, good arguments on both sides of the primarily-female vs. more inclusive debate. Most of the pro-female-space people hearkened back to the early days of female fanfic and slash, and how badly the authors were treated by the men of fandom at the time. It kinda convinced me.

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nerdy secret bondage pixie

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from: impasto
date: Dec. 16th, 2007 12:25 am (UTC)
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It's one of those ongoing debates, isn't it? I've only been involved in fandom for a dozen years and wasn't even alive in the '70s, so I obviously can't speak from personal experience about the early era. I have found fandom to be a predominantly female space and I appreciate it for that, but over the years (especially since I'm primarily involved in slash), my sense of fandom as a queer or queer-friendly space has taken precedence in my mind over the issue of gender. Now I've studied queer theory for far too long and known too many trans folk in fandom to assume or describe fandom as female-centered in the 21st century.

But no one's ever going to be entire happy of any labelling of fandom, regardless of which definition is chosen.

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Dec. 16th, 2007 03:01 am (UTC)
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Maybe it's "non-male-dominated" space? I can't think of anything else that would really describe it! Ah well, let's hope it doesn't all disintegrate in terminology arguments.

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nerdy secret bondage pixie

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from: impasto
date: Dec. 16th, 2007 03:15 am (UTC)
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Or maybe "non-penis space"? Ack. You know things are too compartmentalized and academic when you start defining things by what they aren't. O.o

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Dec. 16th, 2007 04:15 am (UTC)
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Well, except for all the penises in slashfic? ;-)

Actually, I think the thing is that fandom's so broad and inclusive, we can't find a word for us EXCEPT for what we aren't. Could be worse!

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nerdy secret bondage pixie

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from: impasto
date: Dec. 16th, 2007 04:58 am (UTC)
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Well yes. *g* Penises in print!

It is a good problem to have, you're right. And even though I can usually see both/all sides of various fandom issues, I inevitably get bored of wank or ignore it completely. Live and let live. :)

(Your icon made me grin so hard, remembering that clip. ♥)

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Lotripper

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from: msilverstar
date: Dec. 16th, 2007 06:07 am (UTC)
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OMG, I cleared out my LOTR trunk today (really, one of those trunks like kids take to college) and was overwhelmed with the nostalgia. (And my kidlet is such a fan! She snagged one of my many "making-of" books and was reading it intently. She's halfway through TTT, mostly on her own. She asks interesting questions and I know most of the answers -- fandom generations FTW!)

Anyway, I was thinking of how I got the ROTK extended early on eBay and put it in and saw Viggo kissing Billy and squeed for the next week or so!

Plus: your icon! Hidalgo premiere! Fabulous pictures from that!

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